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Prostitution.
10-31-2010, 01:47 AM,
Post: #1
Prostitution.
Should it be legal?
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10-31-2010, 01:18 PM,
Post: #2
Prostitution.
Selling is legal and fucking is legal. I rest my case.
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10-31-2010, 01:21 PM,
Post: #3
Prostitution.
Moroz Wrote:Selling is legal and fucking is legal. I rest my case.
Yeah that pretty much sums up what I think.
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02-10-2014, 06:04 PM,
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RE: Prostitution.
Revision of my views:

"Obviously human trafficking and all is wrong to the vast majority of the population.

I believe that prostitutes shouldn't go to jail but the "pimps" should go to jail, but some believe that these brothels should be legal. They have some good arguments, admittedly.

They believe that by legalizing the industry, it carries a similar effect to when porn became legal. Regulation would be able to protect the "workers" involved and keep people out of enslavement to these industries.

However, I believe that legalizing prostitution degrades society at large. Girls growing up may, down the road, want to be prostitutes due to the perception of "fun" employment with what would probably be excellent pay. This would further degrade how men view women as a gender. Like how the education system of the USA began encouraging contraception and abortion after they were legalized, they may encourage young women to enter this occupation, especially when they have poor grades and/or good looks.

On top of this, if government regulates it too much (like most American cities do taxi cabs), the effects of legalization would be compounded by the effects of a lesser prohibition. You'd probably have both the negatives of legalization and lesser prohibition because society wouldn't allow child prostitution or anything of that nature. Therefore, while the human trafficking industry would probably die in large part with the legalization of prostitution, it's perfectly rational to think that it would be too harmful."
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02-13-2014, 06:22 AM,
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RE: Prostitution.
You seem to be under the impression that there are only female prostitutes which is incorrect. There are many kinds of prostitutes: male, female, transgender, intersex etc. Of course you can say "but there are more female prostitutes" but its still pretty shitty to assume that only young women will want to choose to be prostitutes. Not that there's anything wrong with being a prostitute in the first place.

I also find it amusing that you think it "degrades women as a gender", so if a man choses to be a prostitute, it would be alright? Would it also degrade men as a gender?

Contraception isn't only there to prevent pregnancy. It's there to stop the spread of STDs and depending on the contraception, regulates hormones which for people who suffer from horrible periods is a godsend. So there is a reason for why schools encourage its use. Especially since the students they're teaching will end up having sex sometime in their lives. I also don't think you realise that married couples use contraception too, especially if one of the partners were born a carrier of a STD that will end up killing their partner if they have unprotected sex. But no... we shouldn't educate students on that. Nope. That would be dumb. Sure.

You also seem to be under the impression that prostitutes are dumb or extremely hot, which is not the case. Some people simply can't find work, even when they're qualified and they need the money. So they turn to prostitution til they find a job that they're happy with and can pay the bills.

I'm for the legalisation of prostitution. Sex-workers are people too and they don't deserve to be criminalised.
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02-13-2014, 02:36 PM,
Post: #6
RE: Prostitution.
(02-13-2014, 06:22 AM)jesyika Wrote: You seem to be under the impression that there are only female prostitutes which is incorrect. There are many kinds of prostitutes: male, female, transgender, intersex etc. Of course you can say "but there are more female prostitutes" but its still pretty shitty to assume that only young women will want to choose to be prostitutes. Not that there's anything wrong with being a prostitute in the first place.
I honestly thought I mentioned that in the post but I think I accidentally edited it out. You're correct.
(02-13-2014, 06:22 AM)jesyika Wrote: I also find it amusing that you think it "degrades women as a gender", so if a man choses to be a prostitute, it would be alright? Would it also degrade men as a gender?
I was referring more to how men view women. When contraception, abortion, and promiscuity became more acceptable and commonplace, women became more like objects to most men. Porn probably made that worse, too, although I don't want to ban that.

(02-13-2014, 06:22 AM)jesyika Wrote: Contraception isn't only there to prevent pregnancy. It's there to stop the spread of STDs and depending on the contraception, regulates hormones which for people who suffer from horrible periods is a godsend. So there is a reason for why schools encourage its use. Especially since the students they're teaching will end up having sex sometime in their lives. I also don't think you realise that married couples use contraception too, especially if one of the partners were born a carrier of a STD that will end up killing their partner if they have unprotected sex. But no... we shouldn't educate students on that. Nope. That would be dumb. Sure.
I don't want to derail this into a contraceptives debate but the only reason that abstinence sex education is "ineffective" is because it wasn't absolute and some students remained sexually active. Essentially, even if you ban teaching morality and teach strictly from a perspective of why you don't want to be pregnant or ill, you still get negligible impact on contraception information because their peers will still talk about sex so much while they will be (IIRC) around 19% more likely to be abstinent during their teen years. I should make a separate topic for this, though.

(02-13-2014, 06:22 AM)jesyika Wrote: You also seem to be under the impression that prostitutes are dumb or extremely hot, which is not the case. Some people simply can't find work, even when they're qualified and they need the money. So they turn to prostitution til they find a job that they're happy with and can pay the bills.
Yeah, you're not under the proper impression. You're right that they sometimes just don't have the ability to get money otherwise.

(02-13-2014, 06:22 AM)jesyika Wrote: I'm for the legalisation of prostitution. Sex-workers are people too and they don't deserve to be criminalised.
I don't believe the prostitutes themselves should go to jail but the people who use them as "product" should go to jail. I feel like you just skimmed my post and didn't get my actual point of view, considering this was explicitly stated.

I wouldn't really say it's something I *strongly* oppose because it would actually have some positive effects but I don't think these positive effects outweigh the negative effects.
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02-14-2014, 01:56 AM,
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RE: Prostitution.
Looking back at your post, I agree I misread one part (the part with the prostitutes being dumb/hot).

I don't understand what's so wrong with contraception. There's a reason for why its become more commonplace. It makes sex safer and cleaner. Sure you can insist on abstinence only but the reality is, there's no guarantee that the students are going to listen. So why not teach them the methods to be safe in case that happens.

Wouldn't jailing the people who buy sex be effectively the same as banning prostitution? If there's no clients then there's no work.

I actually didn't find your views explicitly stated. And I still don't. You seem to be against the idea of legalising it in your "Revision" post. But apparently I didn't get your view?
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02-14-2014, 06:05 PM,
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RE: Prostitution.
(02-14-2014, 01:56 AM)jesyika Wrote: Looking back at your post, I agree I misread one part (the part with the prostitutes being dumb/hot).

I don't understand what's so wrong with contraception. There's a reason for why its become more commonplace. It makes sex safer and cleaner. Sure you can insist on abstinence only but the reality is, there's no guarantee that the students are going to listen. So why not teach them the methods to be safe in case that happens.

Wouldn't jailing the people who buy sex be effectively the same as banning prostitution? If there's no clients then there's no work.

I actually didn't find your views explicitly stated. And I still don't. You seem to be against the idea of legalising it in your "Revision" post. But apparently I didn't get your view?
Just so you know, I don't believe in contraception.

Ah, I see where you're not understanding me. I want to send people who run the brothels, i.e. those who traffic and sell people, to jail. The actual people being sold shouldn't go to jail though, and it's practically impossible to track who's buying.
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