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02-13-2014, 06:14 AM,
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http://deerboywonder.tumblr.com/post/765...s-demigray

huzzah the mess that is human sexuality
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09-13-2014, 12:16 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-13-2014, 10:09 PM by Nuke.)
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RE: Sexuality
Panromantic Agender Demisexual Polyform Heterintrigued Homethnic Biflamecolor Dragonkin Gehennalord here

But seriously, come on, this is an oversimplification. With the exception of demisexual, every SJW-backed "orientation" on here is just a matter of association or perception. Asexuals can often be the result of trauma or an injury that causes puberty to never happen, but tumblr just skews it into a whole mess of "lol my minority". "Demisexuals", then, are just normal people who have a taste in friends. Hell, if that were a real "minority condition", I'd be classed as demiromantic heterosexual, since I prefer to have a friendship before a relationship, but come on, that's not something so big you need to make a whole dumb identity for it. Hell, where the hell do you even see discrimination against "people who require a strong bond to feel attraction"? I can't even fathom asexual discrimination to start. Seriously. SJWs are dumb. Hell, "demi-" would be standard for most cultures, I don't even see why the hell that would be an "orientation" unless you seriously can't tell if someone is attractive until you know them very well.

Then it becomes a mere issue of explaining that "polysexuals" (I'm using "sexual" as a standard here because SJWs are ridiculous with "muh identity disorder" and I don't care.) are just limiting their minds to multiple "genders" that are perceived through many constructs they've put into their own mind. "Pansexuals" should explain how they're attracted to shit in the toilet, because otherwise, not everything turns them on. If you rig your mind enough, you can be constantly aroused. The problem then becomes the fact you'd still prefer some things over others. You'd end up being horny all day. Most of these things are perceived by the mind just to fulfill the innate desire to belong when their groups are becoming infested with SJWs.

Graysexual? Grayromantic? Oh God give me a break, being picky about your opposite sex and being picky about romantic partners is completely normal, it doesn't make you need a whole big identity crisis with a side of "muh discrimination". These groups of people are completely normal and are being convinced by their friends to wall themselves off using "identities" to make themselves feel good within the SJW hive.

That said, I hope you know enough psychology to explain how you can't change your mental associations of appearances, organs, whatever, and change your own sexuality, even at the subconscious level, e.g. if a child is seen as a homosexual or as a flamer growing up, he'll probably become gay as result.

Applies to a lot of these "other genders" and especially otherkin as well. I don't have anything against them, as people, I just think they're being socially absorbed into an unhealthy and absurd youth culture. I could make human sexuality as complex as I felt like it if I put the effort into making new sexualities and genders for people to use for their identities. I could make them rally for "human rights" to be dragoncats because they're otherkin. It's stupid. Simple manipulation by the SJW puppeteers, done on a grand enough scale to where they don't even need to touch it. If I really put my mind to it, and shoved some creative muscle into convincing people they were a new tumblr-gender, they would believe it. It wouldn't take much propaganda knowledge, and with tumblr having so many artsy types, I'd bet many of them know propaganda -- albeit in whatever "marketing" title it would have.

As a final note:

One time, a group of people who were poor and claimed to be oppressed rose up for "equality". Obsessed with their identity, they took all the wealth of their so-called oppressor.

It was called the Holocaust. Nazi Germany disfavored (affirmative action policies like advocated by SJWs), then robbed, then enslaved, and then when they still weren't satisfied, simply killed their "oppressor", persecuting them throughout Europe.
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09-15-2014, 12:46 PM,
Post: #3
RE: Sexuality
Seriously, where did you find this 'information'? It's so wrong it's almost funny. Asexuality isn't a product of abuse. Some people just don't feel sexual attraction, simple as that. Saying that people need to be abused to be asexual is discriminatory and insensitive. Demi- is a term created entirely on Tumblr is totally irrelevant.

Pansexual people are attracted to the person, not the gender and most certainly not inanimate objects, not even pans. Sexual attraction to objects is a thing, but it's totally seperate from pansexuality.

If homosexuals were 'created' that way, then where did they come form in the first place? It's not as if homosexuals have children. Homosexual people are made by Heterosexual people; you can't just tell a child they're gay and they'll magically become gay. People are born with whatever sexuality they have and then they need to work it out for themselves.

Otherkin are weird I'll agree with you there.

http://yamino.tumblr.com/post/9743341398...at-the-way might be interesting to you

As a final point, excellent implementation of Godwin's Law: if you mention Adolf Hitler or Nazis within a discussion thread, you’ve automatically ended whatever discussion you were taking part in
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09-15-2014, 01:43 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-17-2015, 04:46 AM by Nuke.)
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RE: Sexuality
(09-15-2014, 12:46 PM)SYKO Wrote: Seriously, where did you find this 'information'? It's so wrong it's almost funny.
A more valid source than any that has ever been cited by any tumblr SJW in history: mental experiments. You rely on others for all your information. This is in no way universal. In reality, you must cite those who do as I do. If you don't, you continuously cite people who cite people until it arrives at someone like me, who uses no sources. This is with the exception of studies of any science but psychology, which you clearly don't know that well.
(09-15-2014, 12:46 PM)SYKO Wrote: Asexuality isn't a product of abuse. Some people just don't feel sexual attraction, simple as that. Saying that people need to be abused to be asexual is discriminatory and insensitive. Demi- is a term created entirely on Tumblr is totally irrelevant.
Asexuality is usually a product of abuse. Rape victims, especially children, often may become asexual to avoid trauma. Many people who are incapable of sexual activity also become asexual.

It isn't a necessity but it's certainly what happens outside the tumblr world. I personally was kinda asexual when I hit puberty, since I hated perverts, but I got over it over time.

That said, you could also become asexual because you're so edgy, but I'm going to repeat here:
Why are any of these dumb sexualities things society at large needs to acknowledge? Please tell me that, because it's become too ridiculous. The whole movement, at some point, becomes a simple rehash of Fascism -- a conveniently never-studied ideology that would be pretty good to study for the sake of not repeating humanity's past mistakes.

Also, you strongly implied in the first post that you supported the linked post. Can't you defend your own link that started this?
(09-15-2014, 12:46 PM)SYKO Wrote: Pansexual people are attracted to the person, not the gender and most certainly not inanimate objects, not even pans. Sexual attraction to objects is a thing, but it's totally seperate from pansexuality.
>What's the difference between pansexual and bisexual? perception of genders
Alright, a whole new level of how my perception argument is valid.
(09-15-2014, 12:46 PM)SYKO Wrote: If homosexuals were 'created' that way, then where did they come form in the first place? It's not as if homosexuals have children. Homosexual people are made by Heterosexual people; you can't just tell a child they're gay and they'll magically become gay. People are born with whatever sexuality they have and then they need to work it out for themselves.
"How did homosexuals start in the first place?"
1. There was a perception in ancient societies that you achieved greater statuses of manhood by dominating, e.g. raping, other men. This continues in many modern societies, particularly those that have death penalties on consensual homosexuality.
2. Some people just become gay to be "edgy". (modern case)
3. Biological mutations that can be reversed by changing to heterosexuality.
(09-15-2014, 12:46 PM)SYKO Wrote: http://yamino.tumblr.com/post/9743341398...at-the-way might be interesting to you

As a final point, excellent implementation of Godwin's Law: if you mention Adolf Hitler or Nazis within a discussion thread, you’ve automatically ended whatever discussion you were taking part in
Ah, I know Godwin's Law.

I've actually studied Fascism, though. Not in a university (because I've never attended), but I've studied it for arguments with them and often through arguments with them for some time now. They, especially the more classical, less "neo" types, are very much SJW. Their racism is directed in the same way, just in a different direction, and in the "neo" case with a much stronger view of superiority, particularly for Germanic peoples. In WWII, the Nazis actually created allied nations in occupied territories -- they're seen as puppets today, but they're about as "allied" as most US allies today, too.

Godwin's Law is more just "Hitler spoke in that sort of style..." or something. Evocations of the law are often superficial or stylistic attacks on opponents. That said, you have only been able to evoke an online law to counter my argument that SJWs are a Fascist group.
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09-15-2014, 02:45 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-15-2014, 03:01 PM by SYKO.)
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RE: Sexuality
Can you cite some of these mental studies you speak so highly of? You're arguments are totally irrelevant if you don't have credited information to back it up.

Your sexuality isn't some pendulum that swings between orientation as it chooses. It's fixed. It's fixed since before you're born. What you described from personal experience is abstinence, not asexuality. If you're not aware, Abstinence is willfully not engaging in sexual activity despite sexual feeling, Asexuality is no Sex Drive at all. Asexual people may engage in sexual activity if they wish to please a romantic partner or have children though. Asexual people still have gender preferences but this doesn't make them Hetero, or Homo, or Bi though.

You're implying that homosexuality was entirely a human creation. Care to explain how hundreds of other animal species engage willingly in homosexual relationships?

For good measure, since you seem totally oblivious to this whole 'some people don't have sexual desires' thing: http://www.wikihow.com/Understand-Asexual-People
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09-15-2014, 04:44 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-16-2014, 10:32 AM by Nuke.)
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RE: Sexuality
(09-15-2014, 02:45 PM)SYKO Wrote: Can you cite some of these mental studies you speak so highly of? You're arguments are totally irrelevant if you don't have credited information to back it up.
"I cannot think without a higher authority to help me think."
This sounds like learning how to be creative inside the box. It doesn't make sense. My arguments are clearly never "within the box". They're straight-up philosophy and analysis. You actually aren't ever supposed to cite those. This is one of the things I really don't like about modern society: Everything is within the realm of possibility. You don't have any geniuses in that kind of environment. The last true geniuses I could really name in the Western world are from WWII. Truly a great era for a species that has more diversity and population than at any previous time in its history, but it cannot muster a single person that can rival itself from the last era, when there was no real concept of an academic box of operations. In essence, we've gone from pressing the limits of our known universe to their limits and expanding our known universe at increasingly rapid rates to extents where we leave the whole planet we live on and consider making space colonies with "genius" to just explaining what we already know to the increasing amounts of people using "genius".

(09-15-2014, 02:45 PM)SYKO Wrote: Your sexuality isn't some pendulum that swings between orientation as it chooses. It's fixed. It's fixed since before you're born. What you described from personal experience is abstinence, not asexuality. If you're not aware, Abstinence is willfully not engaging in sexual activity despite sexual feeling, Asexuality is no Sex Drive at all. Asexual people may engage in sexual activity if they wish to please a romantic partner or have children though. Asexual people still have gender preferences but this doesn't make them Hetero, or Homo, or Bi though.
...Yeah, it's not really. I had a repulsion, not a desire to wait until later. Now it's a desire to wait until later. At least you understand the words, though, because from how you interpreted what I said, I thought you thought it was suppressing sexual desires for religion. If you're not aware, you can actually "train your brain" through associations. If you kept looking at porn of your own gender and thought "Good" because you had to do it or thought you should do it, you would become gay. It's a simple fact. If you looked at porn of the gender to which you are currently attracted and trained yourself to hate it, you may also become gay or asexual. It's simply your psychology.
(09-15-2014, 02:45 PM)SYKO Wrote: You're implying that homosexuality was entirely a human creation. Care to explain how hundreds of other animal species engage willingly in homosexual relationships?
>wasn't the third one "mutations"
3. Biological mutations that can be reversed by changing to heterosexuality.
>yeah it was
>that means you're twisting my words aren't you
Perhaps some of these species can actually produce offspring. Perhaps some have a psychology similar to humans. However, other species are not human. If you don't understand that, go ask your biology professor about the difference between an amoeba and a homo sapien.
(09-15-2014, 02:45 PM)SYKO Wrote: For good measure, since you seem totally oblivious to this whole 'some people don't have sexual desires' thing: http://www.wikihow.com/Understand-Asexual-People
You seem totally oblivious to this whole "I didn't have sexual desires until I decided it might be nice to open up to having them." thing.

Why are you so angry about asexuals? Seriously. If you want to be edgy as a kid and not get on the whole "sex bandwagon" or something, you can make yourself asexual by not starting to have sexual feelings. It's all in your head. Please start giving tangible arguments instead of just higher authorities and groupthink.

>missing argument against my ties of SJWs to Fascism

How about a new finishing note?

Metacognition is a skill often utilized by high-intelligence individuals. Essentially, one thinks about one's own thoughts. I think about your thoughts and I see you restrict the world to what you believe it to be: your academic authorities and the hypotheses they have defined for its possibilities. You see nothing outside of your box, nor do you believe it could even exist.
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09-16-2014, 07:17 AM,
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RE: Sexuality
I am honestly surprised that people this ignorant actually exist in the world. I'm not going to talk about this anymore, it's like talking to a brick wall.
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09-16-2014, 10:26 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-16-2014, 10:38 AM by Nuke.)
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RE: Sexuality
How ignorant? Tell me all about my ignorance. Really, it looks like you're the ignorant one, you can't leave your box that you've defined where the boxes of your academic authorities and your hypothetical possibilities meet. You can't even acknowledge that you have a constraining box, either. I use the box metaphor because you actually are 100% ignorant to what you can't see, and you've defined what you see to that box based on the culture appropriated to you (i.e. Western culture of 20XX), and you don't even acknowledge it.

You can't even see it, either. You brand everyone who looks outside of the box and finds a greater world out there as "ignorant", and it's really quite common for that conclusion to be made. You've been taught, essentially brainwashed, into the boundaries of your wall. It started in school as a kid. You don't see outside the wall because you can't apply yourself to everything before you and look at what doesn't make sense, what propaganda your politicians introduced (usually just Left stuff), and you think, because your teachings are "so new" that they've been around since the 1960s and probably earlier, that you are the one on the cutting edge, everyone who doesn't acknowledge your version of the truth is just ignorant. You can't win this argument not because of my ignorance but because of your own self-imposed limits.
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